Tuesday, November 19, 2019

Episode 45 - America's Greatest (and Worst) Presidents - Part 3


Who were America’s Greatest Presidents? Which Presidents had the most lasting impacts that shaped the country in ways that are clearly visible today? What about those Presidents whose blunders, incompetence, or weakness left the nation worse off?
Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis is joined by frequent guest Bob Burch as they work their way through the American Presidents and dissect their legacy—whether great, terrible, or somewhere in-between. Since this is an enormous topic it’s broken up into three episodes. In Part 1 covered Presidents George Washington through Abraham Lincoln. In Part 2 Josh and Bob picked things up with Andrew Johnson through Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And in Part 3 Josh and Bob conclude with Harry S. Truman through Jimmy Carter (the last of the Presidents to serve before Millennials were born).


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Friday, November 15, 2019

Beyond Reason – Part 3 (Does it Matter Where We’re Going?)


Some claim that today’s conservatives are nothing more than yesterday’s liberals—that conservatism is always on the defensive and fighting an uphill battle before eventually succumbing to the Left’s understanding of equality, or civil rights, or entitlements, or what have you. Now, there is some truth to this idea as conservatives do acknowledge that change or some sense of progression is necessary even to conserve the institutions and traditions of society.
But this raises the question: is conservatism ultimately progressivism with patience or—to put it more negatively—someone who is hopelessly behind the times? The answer, I believe, lies in what we mean by conservative. If we mean the natural impulse to keep things as they are then this understanding of conservatism may be an apt description. But if we mean something deeper—such as a worldview that has some notion of fixed standards or permanent things, to borrow T. S. Eliot’s term—then conservatism is destined to take us somewhere altogether different than Leftist ideologies.
Human Nature > Human Reasoning
In this series we’re exploring the conservative’s principle of prescription. Now, prescription is a method of knowing and of progressing. But it’s more than just a method for it points us towards some fixed standard in harmony with our nature. “Politics ought to be adjusted not to human reasoning but to human nature, of which reason is but a part, and by no means the greatest part,” wrote 18th century British statesman Edmund Burke. As we’ve explored throughout this series, it was Burke’s great anti-innovationist innovation of prescription that conservatives use to this day to counter much of the political Left’s reliance on reason alone.
Burke was not speaking against reason but was warning that reason must be put in her proper place—which is in submission to human nature. For it is only by properly ordering our reason to obey imagination and virtue that we have any hope of discovering the deeper truths embedded in our culture and passed down from one generation to the next. This was of particular concern to Burke in the business of politics.
Politics of the Practical
To the conservative, politics is pragmatic, not speculative; it’s less of a science to be handled by experts in the field employing their intelligence, knowledge, and reasoning than it is an art that operates within general principles but allows for a wide range of possibilities to be guided by gifted artists who humbly admit they don’t fully comprehend the full extent of their work. For while there is a dash of mystery involved—as we’ll discuss in Part 4—the conservative always seeks to ground politics in something practical and not mystical, theoretical, spiritual, or philosophical.
“Our ability to know the practical consequences of a particular policy far exceeds our ability to ascertain the truth of a philosophical claim,” wrote Yuval Levin in his book The Great Debate, “In politics, therefore, we almost always ought to judge by effects and not by speculation.” Let us consider the socialist and Marxist motto of “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs”. That’s a fine sentiment, and it may serve us well if we attempted to apply this notion to our own lives. But how do we apply such a general idea to politics? How do we measure abilities and needs? How do we ensure that the allocation of resources, time, talent, wealth, and knowledge are distributed adequately, fairly, justly, efficiently, and effectively? How do we monitor progress or identify weaknesses? How do we guard against waste, fraud, and abuse? How do we enforce these ideas without those put in charge using their power to become our masters?
“Theory often ignores circumstances and particulars crucial to the success of policy and the happiness of society,” warns Levin, “Theory is general and universal, but politics must always be very particular.” This does not mean that universal principles are of no use, or even that they are secondary to the practicality of politics. Levin continues, “Politics is not a branch of philosophy, in an express search for truth or its application, but is rather in the business of producing good practical outcomes, which help point to higher truth but not directly.”
In this manner the conservative is always on guard against political ideas that are too abstract, speculative, theoretical, and universal. But that does not mean the conservative denies the truth found in some of these ideas. Politics must strike a careful balance of remaining gravely practical and pragmatic while always keeping those “higher truths” Levin alluded to in the periphery as a sort of guidepost between extremities.
Standing Between the Rationalist and the Empiricist
In insisting that politics be adjusted to “human nature” and not “human reasoning”, Burke was not making an anti-intellectual case against general principles or the use of reasoning in politics or abstract ideas. Rather, he was offering guidance on how to use our ability to reason. In this manner, Burke sought a middle ground in the debate between rationalism and empiricism of his time.
The rationalist held that what mattered most were ideas obtained through reasoning while the empiricist trusted in what could be learned through the senses and inductive reasoning. When taken to their extremes, the rationalist argued that innate ideas were the starting point of all knowledge while the empiricists believed that no ideas were ever truly innate. John Locke, the father of classical liberalism, was among the most famous of the empiricists. He developed his theories of liberty championed by conservatives today via empirical means.
It might be tempting then to suppose that Burke’s conservatism joins forces with Locke’s empiricism as Burke was famously hostile to the various abstract ideas that were offered by political theorists of his day. Burke wanted politics to be governed by empirical evidence and not some metaphysician’s latest theory. But Burke also saw the danger in a purely empirical view as Russell Kirk explains:
“Conservatism is empirical only in the sense that conservatives respect the wisdom of the species and think that history, the recorded experience of mankind, should be constantly consulted by the statesmen. Yet mere practical experience, ‘empiricism’ in the sense of being guided simply by yesterday’s pains or pleasures, is not enough for the conservative, who believes that we can apply our knowledge of the remote or the immediate past with prudence only if we are guided by some general principles, which have been laid down for us over the centuries by prophets and philosophers. Burke broke with Locke’s empiricism.”
As Burke himself explained it, “I do not put abstract ideas wholly out of any question; because I well know that under that name I should dismiss principles, and that without the guide and light of sound well understood principles, all reasoning in politics, as in everything else, would be only a confused jumble of particular facts and details, without the means of drawing out any sort of theoretical or practical conclusion.” Conservatives aren’t against ideas reached through reasoning—far from it!—but they use these ideas to guide politics, not to replace politics.
Progressing with Prescription
The conservative argues that prescription is what helps us keep ideas, reason, and politics in their proper lanes. By channeling political change through the wisdom of our ancestors we might hope to make some progress towards our ideas of things like justice, liberty, and equality. Prescription provides us with an almost Darwinian model for change, because the institutions, customs, norms, prejudices, and traditions handed down to us were part of a slow, painful process of trial and error. Though not perfect, this model is a group effort over many generations that’s less prone to error than the pontificating of a lone political theorist. In this way, society itself becomes a reflection of what our culture collectively believes society ought to be. This does not mean we always get it right—obviously—but that our greatest hope in achieving some sense of progress will come by holding faithful to the surviving ideas of the past as we press forward.
We began with this post by questioning whether conservatism was simply yesterday’s progressivism. That is, do conservatives simply want society to progress slowly, or do they have some sense of what direction would truly be progress? Does it matter where we’re going or only how we get there? The answer is that both where we’re going and how we get there matter very much to the conservative. But that there is no simple answer to where we’re going for that can only be discerned through a careful study of prescription.
In fact, the conservative would say that even those who don’t fully comprehend where we’re going can nonetheless be leading us in the right direction so long as they follow a prescriptive path. And that is where we’ll turn in Part 4.


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Tuesday, November 12, 2019

Episode 44 - America's Greatest (and Worst) Presidents - Part 2


Who were America’s Greatest Presidents? Which Presidents had the most lasting impacts that shaped the country in ways that are clearly visible today? What about those Presidents whose blunders, incompetence, or weakness left the nation worse off?
Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis is joined by frequent guest Bob Burch as they work their way through the American Presidents and dissect their legacy—whether great, terrible, or somewhere in-between. Since this is an enormous topic it’s broken up into three episodes. Part 1 covered Presidents George Washington through Abraham Lincoln. In Part 2 Josh and Bob pick things up with Andrew Johnson through Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And in Part 3, in next week's episode, Josh and Bob conclude with Harry S. Truman through Jimmy Carter (the last of the Presidents to serve before Millennials were born).


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Friday, November 8, 2019

Beyond Reason – Part 2 (Burke’s Anti-Innovationist Innovation)


William F. Buckley famously defined a conservative as “someone who stands athwart history, yelling ‘STOP’!” By that definition, few have embraced a conservative impulse better than Edmund Burke.
Burke lived during the tumultuous time of the French revolution. The revolutionaries prided themselves on tearing down the old French monarch built on history, tradition, and religious faith and erecting a republic built on reason alone. As we saw in Part 1, The Enlightenment was viewed by many to be the Age of Reason. And Enlightenment ideas soon produced disciples eager to restructure their nation on these exciting new innovations.
“The age of revolutions understood itself as advancing the cause of reason in political life,” wrote Yuval Levin in his book The Great Debate. French radicals rejoiced that humanity was entering a new age in which even the common person would enjoy liberté, égalité, fraternité ("liberty, equality, fraternity"). Surely history was on their side. For only the tiny minority who stood to lose their unequal positions of power and wealth would be opposed to reason. Who else could possibly justify opposing reason?
Burke’s Great Anti-Innovationist Innovation: Prescription
It was precisely this attitude of the inevitable progress of human reason that Burke fiercely opposed. I want to emphasize that it was not reason Burke opposed—something we’ll talk about more in Part 3—but the innovative notion that taught reason alone could justify breaking apart all the wisdom, traditions, knowledge, customs, and institutions that had come before. In response to the innovators, Burke offered his great anti-innovationist innovation: prescription.
While Burke didn’t coin the term prescription he did introduce it as a counterpoint to the call to build all things upon the foundation of reason. Levin wrote of Burke that he used “the term to describe the means by which practices and institutions that have long served society well are given the benefit of the doubt against innovations that might undermine them and are used as patterns and models for political life.” This may sound mundane, but its implications are surprisingly profound.
While the innovators were convinced that the best possible society could be arranged by only the best and brightest with the purest of intentions, Burke’s call to prescription was a warning that no mere group of humans would ever be wise enough, or good enough to succeed. “Prescription…means…respecting and preserving the political order as it has been handed down and even according it reverence.” Levin continues, “Prescription thus beings in a kind of humble gratitude.” Prescription teaches that it takes more than the individual’s reason. The sort of wisdom that shapes a good society requires the virtues of gratitude and humility. And what might gratitude and humility teach us?
An Attitude of Gratitude
Gratitude cultivates a respect for the past that teaches us to learn from those who have gone before us. It also prevents us from tearing apart the society built by our ancestors in search of some unattainable utopia. Developing gratitude does not mean we become complacent. It does not mean we are forever content with the way things are, but that we begin with the things we are grateful for before asking how they might be made better.
Since the conservative’s mandate is to conserve, the first step in that process is to identify what is worth conserving, not what should be torn apart. A worldview or political ideology that cannot be defined without stating what it stands against is not rooted in gratitude. In fact, it’s not rooted in anything and will ultimately self-destruct.
Jonah Goldberg, cofounder of The Dispatch says that gratitude defines the very essence of conservatism: “The way you sustain and improve upon a culture is by fostering a sense of gratitude for what is best about it. You celebrate the good in your story while putting the bad in the correct context. Conservatism is gratitude.” In his book Suicide of the West, Jonah Goldberg makes “a plea for gratitude for what we've got”. Marian Tupy, senior editor for HumanProgress.org, assisted Jonah in finding demonstrable ways in which we have much to be thankful for. His organization provides data on a myriad of ways in which our lives are profoundly better now than at any other point in history. From longevity to material goods to overall wealth, our world has never had it better.
But if we don’t know how to put our current situation into a proper historical context, we run the risk of tearing down the good we have in hopes of reaching for something better. Gratitude is an excellent buttress against this temptation and it teaches us what to hold on to as we strive towards excellence.
A Heart of Humility
In Scripture, Proverbs 11:2 (the book of wisdom) admonishes “when pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.” The religious, political, philosophical, and cultural traditions of the West have often taught that there exists a strong link between humility and wisdom. And this is a wisdom that extends beyond our capacity to reason, for both the individual and our entire species are fallible.
Humility keeps us from thinking too highly of ourselves so that we can anchor our reason to what is both possible and true, not to what is fanciful and self-centered. This is a particularly important quality in politics, as Yuval Levin explains: “Because building a working political arrangement is extremely difficult, we who inherit one such arrangement should be grateful for it even when we cannot fully understand the sources of its success.”
Humility in politics helps us to admit that we may not know the answers. But just as importantly, it helps us to admit that, even when we can have some confidence in adopting the wisdom of the past, we may still not fully comprehend why we are doing so. Humility doesn’t mean accepting traditions without question. But it does mean respecting those traditions enough to seek out why they were established in the first place, and to be resistant to letting them go unless and until we fully understand why it would be better to let them go.
“Even when we as individuals cannot readily perceive the significance of the wisdom inherent in our cultural capital, the very fact of its having come down to us with the reverence and regard of previous generations should cause us to take seriously as a standard to guide our actions and inquiries, or at least to give it a very significant benefit of the doubt,” wrote Yuval Levin. Edmund Burke showed how this might be applied on a personal level: “If ever we should find ourselves disposed not to admire those writers or artists, Livy and Virgil for instance, Raphael or Michael Angelo, whom all the learned had admired, [we ought] not to follow our own fancies, but to study them until we know how and what we ought to admire; and if we cannot arrive at this combination of admiration with knowledge, rather to believe that we are dull, than that the rest of the world has been imposed on.” This task, both on a personal and national level, can only be accomplished by the humble.
Does Prescription Mean Opposing All Change?
There is a temptation to over-simplify Burke’s anti-innovationist innovation of prescription to suppose that conservatives are simply opposed to all change. It may be true that a natural and unthinking conservative disposition detests change, but a truer conservative impulse embraces certain changes. Why? Because, whether we like it or not, change is a permanent facet of reality, and in order to conserve we must be willing and able to change. If we never changed, we’d ultimately lose the very things we are trying to conserve.
What prescription demands is not opposition to change, but a penchant for gradual, deliberative, and careful change. Even more importantly, prescription insists that we change the substance of a thing before we take the radical step of changing its form. This means that prescription tells us that while there are rare instances where radical steps like war, revolution, and societal upheaval may be necessary, they should never be attempted without first exhausting reforms that work within the system. And that is because “the system”—no matter how corrupted or imbecilic—was a group endeavor that was built slowly over time.
This is particularly important when it comes to the form of government and the laws that govern a people. Human relationships and society are so complex that it would be impossible for anyone to truly comprehend all of the ways in which radical change is going to impact the nation, to say nothing of each individual! “The authority of the law depends on its stability and that people build their lives around certain assumptions that should not be disrupted needlessly,” writes Levin. Change may be good and needful, but even good and needful change will prove disruptive and must be handled with care.
Paper Audits
A few years before I began working for the State Auditor’s Office, a prior administration implemented “paperless audits”—a near-universal practice now in auditing firms where the auditor’s working papers, reports, and supporting documentation are stored electronically rather than in large, paper binders. The implementation took place almost immediately after someone from the administrative staff informed everyone that, from this day forward, we were going paperless.
There was no transition period, no training, no new paperless software, and no established network of employees to turn to if someone had questions. As you might imagine, it was a complete disaster, and the entire project was abandoned a short time later. The problem wasn’t that paperless audits were a bad idea, but that the change mandated had no appreciation for the complexities of the paper-based culture that had developed over many decades across a complex network of audits, clients, and employees.
Shortly after I started, I began to work on a new plan to implement a paperless process. It was anything but easy. Most people don’t particularly like change, but when you add to that the disastrous attempt in the past and the bureaucratic nature of a state agency, there were plenty who were not only opposed but downright hostile to the idea of giving it another try.
I developed a seventeen-point plan (no joke!) for what would need to happen to get us from here to there. It included multiple hurdles from doing paperless audits myself to better understand the challenges in implementing them in the organization, working with IT to find ways to improve our wireless and internet connectivity issues in rural Oklahoma counties, gradually developing forms and templates for the other auditors to use that were versatile in both a paper and paperless environment, and developing reports on the various ways in which paperless audits would ultimately benefit us, to name but a few!
And this was hardly a solo activity. Over time, as the momentum began to shift towards a paperless-friendly culture, I had the help and support of administration and various groups were formed to determine what software we should use, what hardware would be procured and what resources would be used, how a paperless process would be strategically implemented, and what policies and procedures must be developed. We assessed the willingness and ability of each district office to implement a paperless process and used it to create a timeline of which offices would go “paperless” when.
When everything was finally in place, I spent the better part of a month traveling to our various district offices, conducting training on how to use the new software and what a paperless process would look like. And that was just the beginning. Years later there is still much work to be done to continuously cultivate a culture of tech-savvy auditors, respond to individual and group challenges, and develop templates, processes, and forms that address the ever-evolving world of auditing.
The transition from a paper to paperless office was ultimately beneficial and even essential in the audit industry. The change was good, but the implementation, considerations, challenges, and complexities that surrounded that change required a good deal of prescriptive application to avoid the failure of the past. That prescription required us to understand our culture, the imbedded wisdom in the way we’d “always done things” and how to ultimately connect the old with the new to keep our office equipped to meet the growing demands of our industry. This is the chief role of prescription. As Levin explains, prescription aims to “ground the new in the old, to make change into extension, and so to provide for continuity and stability so that problems are addressed while the overall order is not unduly disturbed.”
Does Prescription Mean Accepting All Change?
But there is another way in which we may be tempted to over-simply Burke’s anti-innovationist innovation of prescription: the notion that, in the end, all that matters to a conservative is that change happens slowly and follows a prescription-approved procedure. If that’s all there were to prescription, then how are we to distinguish good changes from bad changes once they’ve become the established “norm”? Supposing the State Auditor decided we were better off under the old paper-based audits; would it be fitting and proper to make that change so long as it was done in a prescriptive manner?
Surely the conservative must believe in something fixed and permanent—some ideal to strive towards that allows us to measure “progress” and evaluate the appropriateness of change. Prescription is not a one-sided tool that cares only about the means of change and has nothing to say about the ends. In fact, one of Burke’s chief concerns with those of his era demanding we rely on reason alone was precisely that such thinking put us at risk of ignoring deeper truths that were only discoverable through prescription. And that is where we’ll turn in Part 3.


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Tuesday, November 5, 2019

Episode 43 - America's Greatest (and Worst) Presidents - Part 1


Who were America’s Greatest Presidents? Which Presidents had the most lasting impacts that shaped the country in ways that are clearly visible today? What about those Presidents whose blunders, incompetence, or weakness left the nation worse off?
Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis is joined by frequent guest Bob Burch as they work their way through the American Presidents and dissect their legacy—whether great, terrible, or somewhere in-between. Since this is an enormous topic it’s broken up into two episodes. Part 1 covers Presidents George Washington through Abraham Lincoln. In Part 2 Josh and Bob pick things up with Andrew Johnson through the Presidents of the modern age.


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Friday, November 1, 2019

Beyond Reason – Part 1


During the eighteenth century there emerged an explosion of intellectual, philosophical, political, and economic ideas that swept across the Western world collectively referred to as The Enlightenment. These ideas led to unprecedented breakthroughs in science, the emergence of the free market, revolutions and political upheaval, and massive shifts in how people thought about the concepts of God, the role of the church and state, society, and the individual.
It would be an understatement to say that this was an exciting time to be alive. Nearly every prejudice, presupposition, institution, and idea were being pulled apart, questioned, reconstructed, or discarded. Systems of government that had endured for a millennia were giving way to radical new ideas of the rights of the individual, the equality of all people, and the shared humanity of us all. Some began to see The Enlightenment as the Age of Reason where humans would finally rid themselves of the ancient religious superstitions and the barbaric hierarchy of slavery and monarchy and would enter a new age where reason ruled supreme.
But to suggest that the Age of Reason contained some cohesive set of ideas that everyone could agree on would be like saying the Age of Trumpis an era of bipartisanship. Some may have believed that reason was inevitably progressing history, but others were skeptical or even opposed to this idea. As William F. Buckley once famously quipped, “A conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling ‘STOP’!” And in the Age of Reason conservatives were yelling “STOP” as loudly as they could.
But why would a conservative oppose reason? There are plenty of things the progressive calls progress that conservatives understandably oppose—collectivism, equality of outcomes, the loss of cultural traditions, expanding state control—but what could possibly be wrong with a call to reason? In fact, don’t conservatives often accuse progressives of being over-reliant on their emotions instead of reason?
The answer lies in what we mean by reason. As Thomas Sowell put it:
“Reason has at least two very different meanings. One is a cause-and-effect meaning: There is a reason why water expands when it freezes into ice, even though most of us who are not physicists do not know what that reason is—and at one time, no one knew the reason. The other meaning of reason is articulated specification of causation or logic: When it is demanded that individuals or society justify their actions before the bar of reason, this is what is meant. The more constrained one’s vision of human capabilities and potential, the greater the difference between these two meanings. Everything may have a cause and yet human beings may be unable to specify what it is.”
From this vantage point we see that conservatives are not opposed to reason but they are skeptical of humanity’s capacity for employing reason sufficiently or intentionally in certain situations or fields. Reason might be an appropriately sufficient tool in the field of philosophy or science, but can the same be said of the field of politics?
“Many of the greatest challenges a statesman must confront arise from the less rational elements of the human character,” writes author and political analyst Yuval Levin, “Governing is, of course, a rational activity, and political thought must certainly be guided by some general principles, but it’s a mistake to assume that effective principles can be drawn from abstract premises rather than actual experience. The general must be derived from the particular, not the other way around.” Reason is an excellent tool for deriving general principles; but it isn’t well suited for studying the nuances of highly specific situations.
The conservative does not believe we can govern well using reason alone because politics is more than applying general principles derived from reasoning. Throughout his book, The Great Debate, Yuval Levin uses British statesman Edmund Burke to illustrate this point: “Burke believes that the attempt to apply what he calls metaphysical methods in politics confuses politicians and citizens about the purpose of politics—leading them to think that governing is about proving a point rather than advancing the interests and happiness of a nation.”
What then does the conservative believe is required beyond reason to govern well? Again, Levin turns to Burke: “If the premises of Enlightenment liberalism are inadequate, and if the resulting faith in modern reason is unjustified, what is the alternative organizing principle of, and the appropriate means for thinking about, political change? Burke’s answer…is prescription—Burke’s great anti-innovationist innovation.”
Just what is prescription and how does it take us beyond reason? That is what we’ll be exploring throughout this series, beginning with Part 2 next week.


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Tuesday, October 22, 2019

Bonus Episode – Millennials and the GOP with Kristen Soltis Anderson


The incomparable Kristen Soltis Anderson joins Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis to discuss a plethora of topics from the GOP’s branding problem with young Americans, what messaging might appeal to Millennials, whether Millennials are Leftists, and the value of polling.
Kristen is a pollster, speaker, commentator, and author of The Selfie Vote: Where Millennials Are Leading America (And How Republicans Can Keep Up).
Kristen is co-founder of Echelon Insights, an opinion research and analytics firm that serves brands, trade associations, nonprofits, and political clients. Through her work at Echelon, she regularly advises corporate and government leaders on polling and messaging strategy, and has become one of the foremost experts on the Millennial generation. Kristen is also a frequent speaker to corporate and political audiences about emerging public opinion trends.
Kristen is a regular presence on television news and has served as an ABC News political analyst, participating in their election night coverage in 2016. She regularly appears on programs such as MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Fox News’ Fox News Sunday, CNN’s The Lead with Jake Tapper and HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher.
Kristen is the host of SiriusXM’s “The Trendline with Kristen Soltis Anderson,” airing weekly on their POTUS politics channel. She also co-hosts the bipartisan weekly podcast, “The Pollsters,” featuring Democratic pollster Margie Omero. She is a regular columnist for The Washington Examiner and has written for The Washington Post, The New York Times and more.
In 2016, Kristen was named one of ELLE’s “Most Compelling Women in Washington,” and in 2013 she was named one of TIME’s “30 Under 30 Changing the World”. She has been featured in Marie Claire’s “New Guard”, Cosmopolitan, and Glamour.
Kristen served as a Resident Fellow at Harvard’s Institute of Politics in 2014 and has been an invited speaker at many colleges and universities. She received her Master’s Degree in Government from Johns Hopkins University (with “Best Thesis in the Area of Democratic Processes” honors) and her Bachelor’s Degree in Political Science from the University of Florida.
Kristen is currently a Term Member of the Council on Foreign Relations. She serves on the advisory boards of a variety of companies as well as a number of nonprofit organizations including ClearPath, Service Year Alliance, the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, and Winning for Women.
Originally from Orlando, Florida, Kristen now resides in Washington, DC with her husband Chris and her golden retriever Wally. In her free time, she enjoys growing chili peppers and cheering for the Florida Gators.


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